PT 7: POP SMOKE & KING VON: "WE LOST LEGENDS WHEN THEY DIED" TRAP LORE ROSS TALK CRIME IN HIP HOP??? (2024)

The word legend is so damn overused now. If they're legends, wtf is Hov and Pac?

Lmao we gotta stop calling everybody legends 🤣

“Ny drill will eventually evolve in what Chicago has going on” is f*cking crazy! Like that’s what we want. We can see that’s what Adam 22 wants.🤡

Guy with the dreads mad serious, chill fam😭

This Mecca guy just wants to sound so profound all the time

Hiphop is dead when you see this sh*t

For this era; I would say they are indeed legends. They died 4 years ago at the beginning of their careers and their impact in the 2020s so far has been undeniable.

Y’all call anybody with no pulse a legend what is going on with this world nowadays smh

Ppl are using the word legend to loosely 😂

The dude Mecca really needs to get a new job or talk about something he actually knows about. He’s way too emotional for these kind of conversations.

Mecca got to sneak a word in. With the closed eyes, hand to the face, serious voice.
Damn, i stopped listened. Then came back and he talking bout country music wife beating...

If you are a gang legend in a gang major city, and you then get into music, and that music goes coast too coast. It then goes across the Atlantic, and a little white guy falls in love with your music. He then makes a documentary about your life. That is by definition, A Legend.

Mecca got to relax ... who pee in his cup

King Von was not a legend 💀

Yo what is going on with homie with the dreads man 😂. His energy is weird

They were both legend in the making, but they aren't legends.

Valid point about hip-hop’s cultural appropriation of Italian mafia. How many rap names come from Italians. I’m also assuming Math “Hoffa” is after Jimmy Hoffa as well?

THEY ARE NOT LEGENDS

I really hope these dudes start to read the comments

Mecca look like he holding back an entire army before they go wild on these 2 😂

Anyone who says Popsmoke and King Von aren’t LEGENDS is OUTDATED….

You Get A Legend, You Get A Legend!!
-( Oprah Voice)
Slow Down with Goat amd Legend Talks.🤦‍♂️

Thank you trap lore, once we started to get successful and showed some type of organization they was like hell naw we can’t have that then crack came

rap has been linked with crime from the beginning” then , hate when people think hiphop is tied in with violence

They might not be legends to yall but they are to us 💯

I ain’t gone lie no have a disdain for that pop smoke stuff. I was so looking forward to that new sound he was bringing. SMH.

Is everyone considered a legend these days or what? I thought a legend was someone that's EXTREMELY famous

Mfs call these dudes Serial killers whole time both sides just retaliating on each other who started the bs who knows…I grew up with these types this British dude a damn vulture

Leaders of the New School? Yes…. Legends? No

These folks don’t even have a catalog to be called a Legend!

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Mec was super emotional this whole interview 😂

Mecca needs to simmer down

Legends?!? WTF y'all talking bout? This is what happens when we invite EVERYONE to the cookout.

Mecca should only participate when guests over 50 are there

Math is tapped in with grime yea 💪

Yt mentioned Jeff Fort. 👏🏿

Much better interview to not feel you must defend “black people” with every topic. Dude is trying to tell his story from his pov in the UK.

Legend- an extremely famous or notorious person, especially in a particular field. The literal definition. Think before y’all type “tHeyRe nOt LeGeNds”

That time of month for Mecca, eh?

Lots of rock and country songs about gangster sh*t.

King Von and Pop Smoke did not pass away. They were murdered. There is a difference.

Thank you for saying that Chicago made that ish I could say more but I’m lit Ny y’all can’t have everything love y’all though 🫡💯

Nah Von had it coming. The lord giveth and he taketh. Pop another situation

Mecca definitely NOT feeling the entire interview

I'm so happy math stop play his wack music video as a intro

My mans looks and sounds like Harry Potter 😂😂😂

Pop smoke was the coming of another NEw York Pilar he shut down everything when he was out here boy went global in a year him performing in France London

Mecca is a great example of being a contrarian. Anything Ross says he implies the opposite but it’s funny because he keeps contradicting himself.

apparently Adam22 has never heard of “Outlaw country”

He said great not legend

Wouldn't know who they are. If it wasn't for Vlad TV

sh*t killing Mecca Lmaoo

Is that Gene Borrello in the back?

0:13 Who is Trap.Lore Ross

Mecca on point. Yes sir , mecca made adam look silly. They don't like it when you talk about they music. Thank you Mecca.

R.i.P. too the brothers tragic situations. But i beg 2 differ they not even close 2 legends

These two are major culture vulture, especially Adam22

they are not legends. stop it

How long before Mecca ends up on Bagfuel? 😂

They need another host that talks more with an open mind to offset Mecca.

This an interview or an interrogation? If y’all scared to say certain sh*t to dame dash be scared with everyone

King Von was LEGENDARY

RIP Chinx

Mac miller XXX Peep Juice Pop smoke Nipsey only the good ones have passed RIP

I know Math be want to slap Mecca. What about Big Cat, hell bumpy Johson

First 😊
9:01am Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
I felt a true loss when PAC was shot !

The real question is why is all their content on the black community rather than their own

These comments let you know mfs dont know or care about anything. Accept all, embrace everything and question none is the motto of a simpleton.

Johnny Cash - Cocaine and Johnny Cash - Folsom prison blues. To name two country songs that dealt with crimes. Not sure if he ever committed the crimes he talked about but let’s be honest, 90-80 percent of rappers don’t do the crimes they rap about. No one believes Em’s older song lyrics. When Ice Cube made Gangster Gangster, he wasn’t doing the things he talked about. There have been metal songs talking about crime also, and Rock songs too. Jailbreak by AC/DC, man in a box by Alice in chains, again to name a couple.

Legends...lol😂😂😂

Mecca lowkey hating Trap

I agree calling them legends is wild but are they not that to their generation of music??? drill music? I hate to say it but to ‘their generation’, they are the biggies and pacs… they was comparing pop to 50 and Von lived what he rapped & he was an extraordinary story teller where hip hop lacked story tellers… so i digress 🤷🏽‍♀️

Crazy vin got killed and some guy in englands just like “oy croooiky ole von had blowy ain’t he”

I’d respect dude much more if he’d just admit. He’s definitely a vulture for this culture. Zacktv was an inspiration for him. His words in an old video.

L3gends? Wait what? Nah.

Serial killer is the only thing I know about Von

I love how you YACUBIANS showed your ignorance with this episode...keep it up

MC🎙️HAMMER 🔨 DID MORE THAN BOTH OF them 🤏🏽 💰🕴🏽🕺🏿

Legends?? 🤔🤦🏽‍♂️

Mecca gotta relax

Is Matt hoffa a MASON

Von was not a legend 😂

Mecca is so stuck in his own head. Dude needs more culture... Unlock your brain man.

KV or PS or Nip.....are absolutely NOT legends....but very talented budding rappers who got gunned down in the social media era

Sure Black gangs weren't and aren't as organized as the American Italian crime families..but..the same reason why Blacks don't have Black owned businesses compared to other cultures applies with organized crime too.
The Mafia came from Sicily to set up in America.
They had an infrastructure in a home base to branch out from.
Black gangs started fresh in this country with no foundation and nation to expand from.

Legends are the ones considered to be historic by the majority of a population. I dont feel like their journey was long or impactful enough to be considered historical by a majority.

“Legends” is quite a reach…

von and pop smoke were not legends at all. they were newcomers and were too new to be legendary

Nas, Tupac, Jay Z, Biggie, Kendrick Lamar, E-40, Scarface, Outkast, Lil Wayne etc are legends.... not these dudes

Italian culture or any criminal culture was glorified in movies. Rap is born in the streets it goes hand in hand. All criminal cultures based there structure off the mob. These two guys are just cultural vultures to be a fan is one thing but to act like they have knowledge based off what happening now and calling kids legends is disrespectful to the MCS that put in the work to make hiphop world wide

🤣🤣🤣🤣 legends?

1090 steak is a snitch himself

You can't have a good conversation when people are being defensive

Dude can definitely be considered a culture vulture. Simply cus, u have a bunch of videos about rappers and those rappers killings. Yet u made a Von video hours long. Tattooed him on you. Then u doing a press run like u have an album coming out talking about Von as if u knew him. Why is it you don’t have any videos about people where ur from? Or even white gangstas?

Why are killers glorified? I would really like to know. I have never understood that. Is that suppose to make you a man or something

LEGENDS!!!🤔🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

This is Corny AF 😂😂😂 I’m sorry

🙏💕 RIP 🌹 POP SMOKE And KING 👑 VON ln Jesus Christ Name 🙏💕 Maybe gone but never ever forgotten Legends don't ever die they're always in our hearts forever 💓🙏♾️♾️💕🙏🙏❤️♾️🙏♾️💕🙏❤

Putting pop smoke on the same level as Von isn’t fair. Pop has no where near the catalog as Von